i would like to see one or better two members of the governing body get disfellowshipped and they both go off to write books like ray franz exposing the cult to all the sexual scandals, the hidden agendas with the stock market investments, the lawsuits, the laying of long time bethel workers, hidden sins by the higher ups and all the other nasty skeletons in the watchtower closet..
what would be different today compared to rays time is that we now live in a social media world..
they would be invited to talk in the oprah winfrey show, ellen degeneres show, the view, dateline.
A thought: people like Pastor Warren Jeffs and Joel Olsteen do quite well on book sale royalties. With all the hoopla about Scientolgy, Mormon sects, Ect..a defecting GB member could probably do alright for himself, by writing some cautionary book/s on cults & JWs in particular. He'd definitely be a credible 'witness.' Franz didn't have social media to help promote his "Crisis" book. This guy would.
The GoFund idea might help to...until his book eventually hits the shelves. Just a thought FWIW.
so i've mentioned this friend of my husband's who started writing to me out of the blue about three years ago, decades after we d'aed.
last august i wrote to her about the arc and jackson's summons.
i gave her the website details so she could see for herself.
From a mainstream Christian (Christiandom) perspective, my response to your 'friend' might be: "yes...leave it to Jehovah/Jah/God/YHWH. Leave it to God and God alone. He's the almighty, with Jesus as his mediator. Your 'governing body' does not speak for God. No man, or group of men can do that. I'd say personally, that in light of all the blatant child-abuse coverups which are based directly on policy written by YOUR gov body....that it's PROOF ALONE that your not J-vah's organization. If anything, you're probably anti-Christian, but I'm not going to shun you for that. It's not my place. That's between you and God. Oh...and may God bless you."
That'd be a 'Christian' response, FWIW. Coming from someone like me who probably spends more time in shitty 3rd world bars, than churches. Still, I mean well.
from the october 19 letter to the body of elders:.
to all bodies of eldersre: service meeting part for week of december 21, 2015dear brothers:the service meeting for the week of december 21, 2015, includes a ten-minute part entitledshow appreciation for jehovahs generosity.
this is to be a talk based on the november15, 2015, watchtower, pages 14-15. sometime during this part, the video a gift in hand to jehovahshould be played for the congregation.
here's a link to the usa today article.
let's hope the verdict sets a precedent in delaware.... @least it would be a start.. http://usat.ly/1ip4mxr.
Is this going to be in the November 10 (Tuesday) paper edition of USA Today? Or has it already been printed?
It'd be nice to shove that in their faces at the cart...especially (some) of the seniors who aren't trusting of anything off the internet.
a family member who is a bethelite informed me today that there is a letter to be read soon ( this week or next) concerning the downsizing.
so probably someone who has their midweek meeting early in the week will be able to fill in the details.
Please be assured that these adjustments are not being made because of a lack of financial support on your part.
Isn't that from the same script that Sam Herd read at the 2015 'Annual Meeting?' Also, is there an available download for THAT letter (like so many other BOE letters that are out there)?
Last, it'd be nice to see a back-to-back clip of Lett's JW broadcast, from earlier this year, when he says "there is more money going out, than coming in," followed by Herd's statement to the contrary. My Youtube editing skills are lacking...as is my spare time. But, maybe someone could tackle it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_h68ktwpim&feature=youtu.be.
The Salvation Army, a "worldly" organization of "christiandom" has this cool site which breaks down their financials in a pretty transparent way:
http://salvationarmyannualreport.org/financials
Even the First United Methodist Church of Austin, TX displays their financial laundry for all to see:
http://fumcaustin.org/fumcweb/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/FUMCAFinancialDetailJul2015.pdf
So, my question is, does the Watchtower, which seems to pride itself on spit & polish organization and exceptionalism, have ANYTHING remotely like this?? Im asking because I'm a non-JW who is married to one. I'd like to stuff the above financial reports right in her elder/elderette friends faces. 😊
before they just go ahead and file chapter 7 or 11?
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Let us not forget the Borg has billions of dollars worth in property/assets at their disposal.
Exactly. But, since there's no liquidity there, they are begging for cash, stopping (or slowing) new construction, and laying off Bethelites, ect. Sure, they can sell off their property assets, but that won't turn a profit overnight. It would ALSO cause them to further cannibalize their organization, which might serve to wake more JWs up. I tend to think they're screwed either way.
before they just go ahead and file chapter 7 or 11?
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Don't underestimate the cumulative affect of abuse lawsuits:
so i've been pretty good at not going to meetings lately.
yesterday i went for the co's last talks.
older co. his last talk was absolutely shocking.
so i've been pretty good at not going to meetings lately.
yesterday i went for the co's last talks.
older co. his last talk was absolutely shocking.
I'd like to dig up previous Watchtower articles/writings that contradict all this. I'm sure they put something out there before, which CRITICIZES other religions for doing JUST THAT: child baptisms.
I'm sure that the JWs have used 1 Cor 7:14 (children sanctified through parent's faith) before, to defend AGAINST child baptisms.
If any former JWs know if any such Watchtower writings, please post some references. I'd love to smear it in their faces and make 'em eat it.
